June 12, 2019 – Lawyering Up!!! – READ THIS!!!
The Short Story: This is so important I moved it to the top. I met with a lawyer today that is serious about taking this issue up with Apple!!! The best way YOU CAN HELP build this case right now is to leave a comment below ensuring you use your proper email address, we need to be able to follow up with you. (Right now we are focused on MacBook Pro users who are experiencing the screen splotch symptoms elaborated on below.)
— IMPORTANT COMMENT INFO —
a. If you’re having problems leaving a comment below, please follow the link below to a Google survey that will collect the required info.
Link: http://bit.ly/MacBookPro-Spots (Link will open in a new tab/window)
b. Please note I manually approve comments so it may take up to a week before your comment shows up below.
c. Due to the volume of comments coming in these days and a lot going on in my life right now I’m no longer to reply personally to the vast majority of them. Sorry about that.
The Long Story: I like telling long stories so here’s one. A couple weeks ago I was hired to do corporate headshots / portraits for a local law firm in Seoul. The boss and I had a really causal pre-shoot meeting to discuss his needs and over a burrito and beer (just me because I’m freelance and that’s how I do at lunch). Our discussion meandered over to law. I said, “Mr. Law (not his real name, but wouldn’t that be great) can I ask you a question?” and proceeded to tell him the very short version of the events below:
“I paid a ton of money for my Macbook Pro, these orange spots appeared out of nowhere on my LCD screen, they meander around, gravity and heat seems to affect them, I decided to document the problem on my blog and now, 10 months later, over 300 people have left comments saying they’re having the same issue. I’m getting more comments with each passing day.”
Mr. Law picked up his phone and made a call to his contact. His contact was interested. My iMessage pinged with his contact’s contact info. I contacted him by text a week later, there was a lot of contacting:
“Hello Mr. Justice. My name is Greg. Mr. Law suggested I get in touch with you regarding a prospective class/group action vs Apple. About a year ago I took the time to blog about my issue with the 2016 MacBook Pro and since then I have had about 300 people report the same symptoms and problem. I have all their emails. Here’s the post if you care to look at it. The comment section is quite interesting!”
Maybe a week later, when I had forgotten all about it, Mr. Justice sent me this text:
Hi, Mr. Samborski. Can we meet on Wednesday afternoon at my office?
For some reason I felt like I was in a movie. So we met! It was a really interesting conversation. Of course it would be foolish to reveal our strategy here. Details will be forthcoming so stay tuned! In the meantime we could really use your help:
1. PLEASE leave a comment here if you are experiencing this problem with your MacBook Pro and be sure to include the following:
a. Is your MacBook still under warranty / extended warranty / Apple Care?
b. Has Apple ever fixed this problem for you under warranty?
c. Have you ever been quoted a price to replace the screen, if so how much?
d. Have you already paid for a screen replacement, if so how much?
e. Have you had your screen replaced more than once due to the same problem? If so how many times?
We will soon be following up with individuals using the email address they left when commenting. The plan is to mail out a Google-forms survey to collect all relevant information, begin the litigation process and keep you updated. I will announce here when that email has gone out and link to the form as well.
Please note that there is no “payout” for consumers in this case. If you’re hoping to get a huge settlement and go on vacation that’s not going to happen. The best case scenario is that Apple creates an extended warranty program to replace screens of affected MacBook Pros for a free for the next few years and reimburses anyone who has paid to have their screen replaced when they shouldn’t have. The worst case scenario is that Apple does nothing, which is pretty much where we stand right now.
That’s all I have right now. Feels good to see something happening. Feels good to be fighting for justice!!! ✊✊✊
If you came to read all about the signs and symptoms from the start read on!
Frankly I’m surprised more MacBook Pro users haven’t filled the internet with endless threads about their LED screens showing weird discolouration. From my experience with faulty logic boards, shoddily soldered GPUs and throttled iPhones these problems are rarely isolated instances.The closest I came to finding information about the problem was this article in the Apple Communities titled “Orange Discolouration from Bottom-Left corner of MBP Screen”. But get this, it was posted March 3rd 2011. It could very well be the same problem, Louis Rossmann has made a number of excellent videos detailing Apple’s repeated engineering flaws. This really isn’t intended to be a “let’s bash Apple” post, after being a die hard Apple evangelist for 15 years, having converted 20-30 PC users in that time, I’m just tired of the paying premium prices for underwhelming, underperforming hardware and the company that just hit a 1 TRILLION DOLLAR market cap not even having the decency to admit when they’re f’d up and solve the problem. There, I needed to do my part and put that out there in the hopes of forcing some change. On to my issue… and probably yours.
Below you will find a log of containing all relevant details regarding the spotty screen issues and a timeline that will be updated as I work my way through this issue. If you have any info, suggestions, resources or comments please leave them below so that more people can find and fix this issue.
Computer: Apple MacBook Pro 15″ 2017 Touch Bar
-LED/LCD Screen has orang-y yellow-y spots/patches (looks the same as when you put pressure on an LCD or an oil drop on wet pavement)
-screen spots/patches occur along the very left site of the screen, from top to bottom
-screen spots/patches DISAPPEAR slowly and completely over a few hours when laptop is open!!!
-screen spots/patches REAPPEAR when laptop is closed for 30+ minutes and opened
-screen spot/patch size and intensity seems to correlate to duration that MacBook is closed
-Heat and/or magnetic field
180805 – WTF is This?
-10:54 Slid MacBook Pro out of computer sleeve of fully loaded LowePro camera backpack
-Noticed large orange-yellow faded spot on upper left corner of LED display immediately
-Assumed the only thing that could have caused it was excessive weight/force from camera gear sitting on computer (though this had never happed in the past 8 years)
-Searched for similar problems with MacBooks but found more faulty pixel and crack/break type issues than discoloration
-Confirmed I still have 2 years of Apple+ Care (Thank god!)
-12:36 Spots/discoloration on LED display has completely disappeared!
180806 – Oh No, it Happened Again!
-08:40-Close MPB and load into the same LowePro camera backpack.
-This time the bag is almost completely empty, no camera gear, no magnets anywhere (I checked just incase), just some sun screen, business cards, small SSD etc.
-12:49 Take computer out to work at cafe, large orange-yellow spots along left side of screen
-This time there are more spots and they are larger than before
-Took a screen shot, no spot on screen shot which means likely not a software issue
-I decide to compile a blog post with all the info I have so far
-13:31 left corner spot has disappeared/dissolved/faded again, lower orangey band faded but still visible
180807 – Unexpected Twist
-11:05 pulled laptop from camera bag after it had spent about 12 hours closed in there
-This time the orange discoloration is along the RIGHT edge of the screen!!!
-This is unexpected and interesting because I intentionally placed my computer the opposite way around in my camera bag…
-So now I’m stumped, I checked for magnets in my bag AGAIN and nothing, there’s nothing in there and nothing has changed from any other day during the last 6 months of use
-Is it GRAVITY? This is X-Files shit…
180809 – System Optimization
I realized that this issue was not going to go away anytime soon so need to optimize this log book. From today I’m going to simply take photos of TextEdit with the date, time and details of the incident. If anything extraordinary happens I’ll put it in text here…
180927 – Momentum is Gathering
Today I replied to the second comment on my page from a user with the same problem. This article is now second from the bottom on the first page of google when you search “macbook pro screen discolouration”. I’ve gotten so used to living with this issue I stopped documenting it. I still get the whacky colors when my MacBook is closed. They still disappear over time when it’s open again. The best possible explanation I have thus far is that it’s gravity related. Read the comments below to see what others are saying and be sure to log your issue here so we can raise awareness.
As I mentioned in my reply to a comment below. I’m going to wait until my slow season before bringing my MacBook in under Apple Care. This is why I always get 3 years coverage now. Shit like this always happens to me with their products. Still, I love the OS, and some aspects of the hardware… Seems I need to have a backup MacBook if I really wanna be productive.
181209 – You’re not alone
I thought I’d share some stats today. I posted this article August 6th and since then there has been a steady increase in hits on the page. Now part of this certainly is the result of having reached top page rank for searches related to “orange smudges on screen”, the page is simply easier to find, but, there is no doubt instances of these spots are becoming more common. If you look at the comments below, you’ll note many Mac owners are saying the problem JUST started occurring (usually right after their apple care expired).
My plan was to wait until slow seasons to bring in my MacBook. I have three years of Apple Care so I wasn’t too concerned, until now. Sine this problem my MacBook has had a few minor accidents including a drop on the floor (someone tripped over the tether cable) and my iPhone dropping on it which caused a minor dent on the aluminum screen casing. I’m worried Apple may try and argue these accidents caused the screen symptoms and I really have no way to prove that this damage happened after the fact. I can only hope that this page will back me up should I encounter any pushback. I’ll post a photo of my current screen situation soon. It has pretty much stayed the same.
181220 – Learning to Live With Spots
I’ve been living with the yellow/orange/purple LCD spots for four months. Here are my longterm observations:
-The spots generally hang out at the bottom of my screen when my notebook is open on the desk for prolonged periods
-The spots never disappear they just migrate
-The spots don’t appear to be getting any better or worse over time
-The spots to still migrate when my laptop is carried/placed in a different orientation
The best theory I’ve heard so far (from the comments below) is that some of the liquid crystal has been smooshed out of the display and now drifts around freely. This would explain why the spots move and seem to be affected by gravity.
The LCD should not be so susceptible to pressure/popping. We have carried our MacBooks in our back packs and briefcases for years without issue… after all, isn’t mobility the very reason we fork out two to tree times more money on a laptop … so that we can carry it around?